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00:00:00.06
Alan Baltis
a bunch of apps open because you know up here in command central I like to have a whole bunch of stuff let’s close that glance at because that’s old school that way you know exactly and in fact let me also go got a Windows session open because I’m funny like that
00:00:09.77
mindarch
Right. but That’s why I have a lot of memory and two monitors.
00:00:22.39
mindarch
I still talk to to people that I’m sorry. Oh, so get this. you You’ll appreciate it.
00:00:27.19
Alan Baltis
okay yes
00:00:27.28
mindarch
Someone at work is getting a new laptop because there’s a so old, it barely runs. It’s from 2017. I said, yeah, okay. And I, I rolled my eyes at those because my lap last laptop I used for 12 years. Yeah.
00:00:41.58
mindarch
You know, and it ran okay at the end even. um But so he goes, well, here, you know, I want to make sure I get one that will do what we need need it to do. My first thought is, okay, so you’re using a laptop from 2017 that does everything you need to do.
00:00:58.35
mindarch
And you’re worried about a newer seven-year-old, a seven-year-newer laptop not handling it
00:00:58.40
Alan Baltis
Right.
00:01:04.76
Alan Baltis
Right, somehow lagging behind. Mm-hmm.
00:01:06.34
mindarch
Yeah. You know, so he sends me a link of what he’s looking at. He sends me a link to the Apple ah laptops. I’m like, dude, these are like all identical, except that, you know, they may upgrade the processor and they may have more memory or that they’re like the same.
00:01:20.45
mindarch
I’m like, go for more memory. Really? Well, you know, I want to make sure I can handle it. Yes. Go for more memory.
00:01:26.13
Alan Baltis
right
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mindarch
Everything we do is just web-based. You know, we use documents. Trust me, you’re not doing anything that’s making that CPU sweat. Yeah.
00:01:34.88
Alan Baltis
it’s very funny just the other day is the first time i’ve ever gotten alert from my mac that you’re running out of memory i really did have everything open and now because i it’s not to be i in fact we’ll talk about this you know i’ve been doing a bunch of different investing stuff and i’ve been looking way back into what I used to do with Gambit, because what’s going on now with the thing from Tradesmith is quite similar.
00:01:56.96
Alan Baltis
So I was doing simulations and and that really, i never wrote it to be non-memory leaky. I used to write it to where it was like running overnight and I’d come back and see results in the morning.
00:02:07.83
Alan Baltis
And so ah just that, I didn’t write code to make sure I cleaned up after myself. Whenever I brought more and more things, the more things you can get off a disk and into memory, the faster things are going to go. So that’s what I did.
00:02:19.83
Alan Baltis
So anyway, that honestly, I, I, My current M4 Mac Mini, I don’t think I’ve ever run out a member before, and even previous versions of that M3, they’re really efficient in those ways now.
00:02:34.04
Alan Baltis
And in fact, every time that I attend the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference, I always attend the, ah not only, hey, here’s the whiz-bang new features, but here’s the things that are going on under the hood that we continue to improve.
00:02:46.05
Alan Baltis
And ah we we must have talked about this in a previous session. I used to do so much stuff where you’d get something working functionally, And then all your work is making sure there’s no errors, making sure there’s no memory leaks, making sure there’s no devices left open, you know, because all those things that take memory that you forget about.
00:03:04.88
Alan Baltis
And they’ve made it now that it does so much of that stuff near automatically.
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mindarch
Yeah.
00:03:10.48
Alan Baltis
We put in standard stuff from the foundation classes that it surrenders your memory without you having to yourself return it. and And sometimes it’s automatic, sometimes it does a whole bunch of monitoring in the background where it’s looking at the, you know, you can bring it up on your, um it’s not called control center, but where you can see every app and what it’s running and how many things it has open and all the I.O. that it’s using and stuff like that.
00:03:38.98
Alan Baltis
And then it’s not only showing that to you, that overhead, which used to be a big thing if you decided to monitor, it was only during testing because you were trying to find what was wrong. Nowadays, that overhead is an assumed thing, and it’s using all that overhead information to continually tune performance so that, hey, if you haven’t used this in a half an hour, and not only in the last half hour, we modify you over the course of days.
00:03:55.15
mindarch
Mm-hmm.
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Alan Baltis
And if we find that what you often do is check these three things in the morning and then don’t return to it for the rest of the day, it’ll give various different things up, especially browsers.
00:04:12.90
Alan Baltis
the way people code their sites, they can continually draw memory from heap. And and ah I don’t keep that many tabs open, but probably half a dozen.
00:04:25.43
Alan Baltis
And some of them regularly, Facebook, for instance, will say, hey we’re going have to reload this page because we’re noticing that it’s become ah an inefficient use of memory.
00:04:36.23
Alan Baltis
but to it That’s how you wrote it.
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mindarch
the The Facebook app sucks.
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Alan Baltis
does. yeah it oh
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mindarch
The Facebook app will lock my computer up at times while it’s doing i don’t know what.
00:04:47.51
Alan Baltis
Absolutely. I get more slowdowns and more freezes from that than anything I’ve had in the last 10 years because they they always were bad about pushing things in that were like not production ready. They were high beta and stuff like that. And now they just, I don’t know what they think, what kind of machine everybody has.
00:05:04.51
Alan Baltis
But if I’m having problems with, honestly, like the most powerful personal computer you can have, how is everybody else running this? Maybe they do all their tuning of the phone app.
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mindarch
ah
00:05:13.37
Alan Baltis
and they have let the desktop lag behind.
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mindarch
Yeah, definitely.
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Alan Baltis
That’s what I think is going on.
00:05:17.33
mindarch
Yeah, absolutely. And there the Messenger app, they’re getting rid of. So you have to use the Facebook app now.
00:05:24.40
Alan Baltis
Okay. They’re reintegrating that.
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mindarch
Yeah.
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Alan Baltis
exactly they didn’ that They bought WhatsApp and various other, you know, various different large companies bought the Instagram and WhatsApp and not TikTok, but you know what mean?
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mindarch
Yeah.
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Alan Baltis
Those kinds of things. And now they’re folding a lot of that messaging or graphic or whatever functionality back in but they didn’t seem to do best of breed analysis to say, who’s got the best codecs for showing you video.
00:05:48.78
Alan Baltis
They just kind of cobble it together.
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mindarch
hammered it together.
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Alan Baltis
Oh my God. Exactly. so so Having had to do a lot with that, um because Apple was early with FaceTime and various stuff veryli things, and they were really good about…
00:06:03.76
Alan Baltis
photo, like first size, you know just making sure that what got stored, anything that was live, both audio and video, that it was really efficient with trying to get something down from a server and then keep it on your machine and have it be, well, we know human factors wise, it won’t bother you that much if we drop 80% of the information because your eyes only you know track four frames a second or whatever like that.
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mindarch
Right.
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Alan Baltis
and And it’s funny, in video, in watching all those cool Hollywood things they wanted to make available, the people that did that really efficiently early on, the porn people, because
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mindarch
The porn and wars have pushed so much technology.
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Alan Baltis
ah right. And the gamer people. so if you’re
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mindarch
Oh, the gamers too now. Yeah, absolutely.
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Alan Baltis
written Absolutely. For frame rates, especially when you started to play first person shooters and lag really could, could kill you. You know what I mean? Not, not literally or figuratively. Everybody uses it in now virtually.
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mindarch
yeah.
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Alan Baltis
Thank you. But I, you know, I, I, Without. being in that industry, I became aware of how many breakthroughs were being made by the people that were like, hey, anyway, it’s very funny. Now, i I’ll say this.
00:07:15.76
Alan Baltis
I think that Facebook and a lot of other social media kind of stay away from the naughty stuff because they’ve already got enough scrutiny from Congress and various different parental boards that they don’t want to be associated with that.
00:07:23.67
mindarch
ah yeah
00:07:27.06
Alan Baltis
But that means that they’re also not running into the the lag and the the the log so the backlog of you got to make this run more efficiently.
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mindarch
Right.
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Alan Baltis
So it’s kind of funny. I,
00:07:39.35
mindarch
And you mentioned all the tabs. Chrome now added a thing when you have a lot of tabs open, you can hover over a tab and it pops up and says how much memory that tab is using.
00:07:49.90
Alan Baltis
So you can compare between and see, you know, well, another site that’s really like between I use both Vendality and Vanguard for my investing. And one is very efficient and one is not. And it keeps on like keep on having things you tack on to be able to look at data from while staying within the app instead of going to another site or something like that.
00:08:11.20
Alan Baltis
Well, They started off bad and they’ve done a lot of fixing, but but basic stuff like if I have investments in various different places, but I want to be able to consolidate it all together so I can do a conglomerate view of how I’m doing, there’s… um I guess industry standard ways of doing that. That’s all secure. Cause you gotta be really secure with you and that kind of stuff.
00:08:33.63
Alan Baltis
Well, security doesn’t always mean efficient and some have found the trade-off between and others have not. And so it used to be, i regularly, anytime that tradesmith, for instance, uh,
00:08:45.24
Alan Baltis
They had things regularly break from other sites like Vanguard and Fidelity and UFB, for instance, and then they’d have to redo something as simple as like, this is the data that you’re getting.
00:08:57.14
Alan Baltis
And they changed their data format, but they didn’t pre-announce it to everybody. So it would break for a couple of days. And… I’m not like a day trader by any means. I’m not having to do things by the minute, but it’s still really irritating to say, hope my investments are doing hey I haven’t been to look at that portfolio for three days.
00:09:14.66
Alan Baltis
yeah
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mindarch
Right.
00:09:15.54
Alan Baltis
And and only maybe once I do remember coming out going, what the hell happened? I would have acted on some of this information if I had it.
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mindarch
Right. Right.
00:09:24.95
Alan Baltis
They’ve gotten, I wrote, and i as that you I wrote a strong letter. You know what i mean? They said, if there’s anything that you guys need to be preemptive about and smart about, it’s this kind of stuff. You can’t present yourself as a conglomerator and then have it be that there’s real errors that happen.
00:09:41.74
Alan Baltis
Oh, well. Oh, it’s,
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mindarch
did Did you add them to your enemies list on your five and a quarter floppy? Like Sheldon?
00:09:48.16
Alan Baltis
you know, it’s, boy. I’ve never had enemies list. I’ve had people that I knew that aren’t good people and you get away from them. You don’t go after them. you Sometimes the opportunity arises where when you bump into them later in business, you just you you not only choose not to work with them, you explain to your current place you’re consulting to don’t Don’t bring these people in. Here’s why they’re bad. Here’s the kinds of things they did when I knew them at Pete Marwick.
00:10:16.93
Alan Baltis
And like cheating on expenses, it’s the tip of the iceberg type stuff. You know what I mean? They’re always looking for that angle, that little edge. And… and people that didn’t honor their contracts and whatever else it might be. So without ever having to pursue them, Providence has been kind to me and given me opportunities to say later, you know what? I know a little bit about this guy or gal and they are bad news.
00:10:38.94
Alan Baltis
Don’t, whatever they do that they’re a shiny little basilisk when they come in and they look all nice, trust me, ah you know, I’ll, They used to have a thing, you know when you first got onto LinkedIn, I had all kinds of friends on Facebook, but I wouldn’t friend everybody on LinkedIn because that to me was more of a vouching for.
00:10:57.37
Alan Baltis
It was a business connection.
00:10:58.55
mindarch
Right.
00:10:59.36
Alan Baltis
And if there would have been a thing on LinkedIn where you could actually maybe anonymously, but even then maybe not say, can can we vote some of these guys off the island? They’re bad news. And if 20 people tell you that, the rest of the world should know that they can’t snake out of the bad things that they’ve done, that that stink follows you around.
00:11:17.56
Alan Baltis
And luckily, ah individual cases, like I said, I had a chance to, you know, for once I was a force for justice. You know what I mean? I just, I wasn’t going to let them get away with it again.
00:11:28.10
Alan Baltis
Not in my purview, you know, not in my sight. Not what I’m associated with. Yeah.
00:11:33.22
mindarch
Right. You know, speaking of bad eggs and seeing what they do, no Kings day on Saturday.
00:11:37.34
Alan Baltis
yeah Exactly. I was very heartened. I mean, you saw it’s like 7 million people across the United States, ah major cities filled, you know, various different malls and streets and stuff like that. Cleveland had it. We went to the Cleveland demonstration and it was all the, you know, that everything you’re hearing from the red side nowadays, not everything. How about 98%?
00:12:01.54
Alan Baltis
is lies and inflammatory and and meant to in every way portray the other side as being the bad guys. Everybody was peaceful and witty. The signs actually had good spelling and good grammar on them. Who knew you could do that?
00:12:16.66
mindarch
like, you know, actually the worst at the getting the spelling. And you know, it’s that old, yeah if someone’s so concerned about other people coming in their house and stealing things, maybe it’s because they go into other people’s houses and steal things.
00:12:30.30
Alan Baltis
Right. Had they the opportunity, they would commit that crime.
00:12:30.74
mindarch
And, Yeah. So, you know, we’ve heard that psychologically when people get so concerned that other people are doing this and everybody’s doing this, it’s usually because they’re the ones actually doing it.
00:12:33.30
Alan Baltis
Exactly.
00:12:43.57
mindarch
And all we get, yes, and all we’re getting is how horrible the blues are and they’re lying and they’re making things up and blah, blah, blah.
00:12:44.05
Alan Baltis
Projection. Exactly. It’s all projection.
00:12:53.58
mindarch
and And it’s like… Do you hear yourselves? and
00:12:57.07
Alan Baltis
Right.
00:12:57.42
mindarch
And they’re they’re getting this by people who do things like put themselves in jets and drop poop bombs on their constituents. That’s where they’re getting it from. i mean, do we if you are so brain dead that you’re okay with that, seriously, stay away from me because I can’t handle the amount of stupid entitlement.
00:13:19.50
Alan Baltis
I totally agree. It’s, we were careful. you know, we we were like, you’re aware.
00:13:24.23
mindarch
I was afraid something was going happen and nothing did.
00:13:26.94
Alan Baltis
that’s what this, this is the first one that we’ve gone to. And we’ve thought about going to various different other things, but maybe the timing of it was that something really bad had just happened. And we’re like, are we stepping into kind of the crosshair? um We, we didn’t stay the periphery where some evil driver uses their car as a weapon and runs couple people over.
00:13:43.75
mindarch
Right.
00:13:44.75
Alan Baltis
We didn’t get sniped at from a nearby building top or anything like that. We were in the middle of the crowd and that’s where the excitement is too.
00:13:49.59
mindarch
the
00:13:51.43
Alan Baltis
You want to be close to where they’re making the announcements and the speeches and stuff like that.
00:13:53.01
mindarch
right
00:13:55.87
Alan Baltis
So,
00:13:56.49
mindarch
I don’t that. I’m so mad that you’re practicing your American right to protest and that you’re the other side. I’m going prove the you’re wrong by ramming my car into you and hoping to kill you.
00:14:10.33
mindarch
I don’t understand that thinking. It’s that is one of those things that I just cannot comprehend so much Lee because it goes all the way back to kindergarten on the playground with the bullies.
00:14:12.13
Alan Baltis
crazy
00:14:23.24
mindarch
That’s the same people, you know, that’s the same thinking.
00:14:25.03
Alan Baltis
yeah exactly i’ll you know i can insult you all i want but if you talk back i’m gonna make you be quiet that kind
00:14:27.04
mindarch
Well, you know what? You think that slide’s so great. I’m going to push you in the mud. Ha, ha, ha. I’m so good. What?
00:14:38.18
mindarch
And if you actually fight back, I’m going to go running and crying to the teacher that you’re an evil person and get you in trouble.
00:14:39.14
Alan Baltis
if and
00:14:42.57
Alan Baltis
Yeah, you started it or something, exactly.
00:14:45.52
mindarch
I had that happen. My son had that happen. you know And it hasn’t changed. they They grew up and they drive pickups now.
00:14:52.68
Alan Baltis
it I know that we’ve talked a little bit about this. There’s various different like personality classification systems. You know, it used to be Myers-Briggs or things like that, Enneagrams. There’s one now that I really like called Ocean, you know, where it’s like your level of extroversion, your level of neuroticism, all those various different things. And one of those things is impulse control.
00:15:12.06
Alan Baltis
If you don’t grow up, like you were saying, when you’re five, six, ten, that you you just you you don’t think before you act. You can’t stop yourself from acting out because somebody pissed you off and you have no anger management and stuff like that.
00:15:25.29
Alan Baltis
and And they didn’t get it
00:15:26.04
mindarch
And anything that’s not anything that’s not the way you think is, oh my God, it must be destroyed.
00:15:28.21
Alan Baltis
They didn’t grow up.
00:15:33.41
mindarch
You know, that that just immediate…
00:15:34.72
Alan Baltis
right The acceleration from zero to 60, instead of it being well, yeah and so you know there’s other countries besides us that now one of the things they teach you is like critical thinking and how to pause it to think about what’s the real truth of what’s going on here and ah empathy, they teach empathy.
00:15:54.24
Alan Baltis
Here’s what you do to put yourself in somebody else’s shoes. Instead of it being, no, i’m me and only people who look just like me are the only right ones and everybody else is the enemy. Everybody else is a bug that you can step on.
00:16:04.60
mindarch
yeah
00:16:06.46
Alan Baltis
All that, all the craziness that that spurns, spurns, sorry, that that inspires all this bigotry, all this prejudice, it’s it’s something that people have never grown out of, but we’ve seen proof that throughout history,
00:16:21.77
Alan Baltis
It’s always been like that. There’s always been people that can’t get past, you’re not my color, you’re not my sex, you’re not whatever else it might be. And thank God that like all the police that were around, they weren’t managing the crowd. The crowd was just fine.
00:16:35.80
Alan Baltis
They were looking for the instigator.
00:16:37.94
mindarch
Agitators.
00:16:38.78
Alan Baltis
And agitators, and that’s another thing that they have, you know straight out of the Nazi playbook, they have had all kinds of evidence that they send people in to force a confrontation.
00:16:50.05
Alan Baltis
And then once the confrontation is going on, they point at, well, it’s because the Democrats are the ones that are causing it. and And then they also accuse other people of having their own agitators as if, you know I mean? Like they project they every accusation is a confession.
00:17:04.24
Alan Baltis
we’re We’re finally getting to where if there’s a lot of media looking at it, um somebody captures on their camera, I’ll say not media, a lot of individual citizens, they capture what’s really going on.
00:17:14.86
Alan Baltis
And then as you probably saw, oh The day after this event, how many places, the Fox News and all of its sycophants, were all saying how what was going wrong, that it was like crimes waiting to happen, that it was not as big as that was it was.
00:17:30.51
Alan Baltis
Every time, of course, as you know, that they’ve had a ridiculous Trump rally, that numbers have been much inflated, and every time that there’s been a mother’s marching on Washington, they show a photo from 10 years ago where it wasn’t as well attended.
00:17:42.83
Alan Baltis
The lies are so obvious and and so predictable that People now know we can’t depend on what used to be a reasonable news outlet like the New York Times, like the Washington Post.
00:17:49.54
mindarch
Right.
00:17:53.19
mindarch
my
00:17:53.70
Alan Baltis
They’ve all been bought and become part of the weird combine that is trying to propagandize everything that comes out. So one of the reasons I made a point of posting, here I am, and it sure looks nice to me. Here’s some signs. Here’s us.
00:18:06.57
Alan Baltis
everyone you know There’s nobody here dressed in riot gear. The ice crazies might have that on, but nobody here is wearing a gator mask. Nobody here is you know but a backpack. full of bomb wrap it was peaceful and amusing.
00:18:20.89
Alan Baltis
And the de amount of peaceful energy, it’s it’s, for people only think in terms of aggression, you know what mean? Who’s going to pound their chest the loudest and stuff like that? They don’t get what ah a wonderful thing that is, the solidarity of people saying,
00:18:35.49
Alan Baltis
um Yes, this is a good idea. Yes, we all should show that we agree with this idea. And you don’t have to show that through like loud you know craziness.
00:18:44.83
mindarch
right
00:18:45.50
Alan Baltis
You just show it by there’s 7 billion people doing it, especially heartening all the red states, ah the demonstrations in Boise. and you know like all ah that that
00:18:54.45
mindarch
and And a lot of Republicans went out too. that They’re like, look, I still agree with what my party stands for, but this isn’t it. And they yeah they’re waking up a bit, some of them.
00:19:01.95
Alan Baltis
This is not my party any anymore. Exactly.
00:19:06.14
Alan Baltis
Yeah, i I read somewhere, know, everybody loves these stats. Any place that has ever had more than 3.5% of its citizens protest, like that regime is going to fall.
00:19:17.21
Alan Baltis
And I don’t think we hit that on this No King’s Day. But the fact that it’s not 100,000, a million, it’s 7 million people and 2,700 demonstrations all over the place, not just in the big cities, because that’s where all those…
00:19:24.35
mindarch
Right.
00:19:32.38
Alan Baltis
but
00:19:32.58
mindarch
And you’ll still hear, oh, you’re getting paid to do that.
00:19:32.91
Alan Baltis
and
00:19:35.58
mindarch
and so
00:19:36.03
Alan Baltis
Oh my
00:19:36.11
mindarch
Really? Who the hell’s paying seven? And what money are you paying them? A dollar each? That’s $7 million. Okay. okay How about a hundred? That’s $700 million. Seriously. Okay.
00:19:47.72
Alan Baltis
Another thing that is the projection and the accusation is a confession. There is evidence that there have been people paid to go to these various different things to bump the numbers up.
00:19:54.11
mindarch
Yeah.
00:19:56.73
Alan Baltis
Andy Borowitz actually had a very funny fake headline along the lines of George Soros declares bankruptcy because of all the money he paid to all You know, that kind of thing.
00:20:05.17
mindarch
Right.
00:20:05.65
Alan Baltis
They also had one where this this happens all the time, as you know, quotes from various different crazies, the Trumps, the Vances, and it’s kind of the various different press secretaries and whoever has been, if you will, an on-camera representative, they’ll say things like, if you see a whole bunch of ah exactly the same sign, then you know that that was like bought and paid for it and handed out to the crowd.
00:20:28.08
Alan Baltis
And then they show the demonstrations that happened for No King’s Day and a sea of disparate signs. And then they show the Trump rally and is exactly the same sign a thousand times over. Wow. You’re hoist on your own petard.
00:20:39.79
Alan Baltis
You’re damned by your own words again and again and again.
00:20:42.78
mindarch
but but But you get the close minded people that go, yeah, see, look at all those signs.
00:20:42.88
Alan Baltis
Is is nobody going to catch on? Not of that crazy.
00:20:49.39
mindarch
Those all got to be faking stuff to the Democrat side. And then on their side it’s like, oh, yeah, I support these people.
00:20:53.78
Alan Baltis
I, I, yeah.
00:20:56.64
mindarch
You know, so my mother right now is on vacation with my aunt, my my father’s sister, and they’re down in North Carolina visiting my uncle, my mother’s brother.
00:21:07.33
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:21:07.54
mindarch
And they are big Trump supporters down there.
00:21:09.65
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:21:09.92
mindarch
And they very typically are like, oh, well, I can’t believe those Democrats just wanted to invade Texas. What are you talking about? Yeah, they wanted to invade Texas.
00:21:20.42
mindarch
What? Yeah, I read it. i mean What? You know, they typically they’ll hear it. I told her, I said, look, my mother’s stance and I’ve gotten her to change her mind. Her stance is, well, if somebody is going off and I don’t agree with them, I’ll just be quiet because I don’t agree with them. And I’m like, but you don’t understand that that is validating them. That is supporting them.
00:21:43.86
mindarch
When you don’t speak up against it, you’re giving tacit support. That’s a problem, especially with some of my neighbors and stuff like that.
00:21:51.63
Alan Baltis
Right.
00:21:51.87
mindarch
And she disagrees, disagrees, but I’ve said it enough. I’ve pointed it out enough. She’s starting to understand, oh, if I don’t say the opposite, then it’s you know more people out there supporting it. And it sounds like the truth.
00:22:05.65
mindarch
So I told her, I said, look, you don’t have to argue with their craziness because all you end up doing is having a terrible time and they’ll go on and on being crazy. Now, where’d you get your information? Well, my neighbor yelled it to me across the road.
00:22:18.40
mindarch
Okay, where did he get his information? Well, you know, he said this. Okay, but where did he get that? And I can’t believe that. where did I said, that’s all you got to do is ask them, what’s your source? When they start spouting off, you don’t have to argue Just say, well, what’s your source?
00:22:30.28
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:22:32.04
mindarch
Where did you see that? Can you show me the article you read? Where are the numbers that you got from a reputable source? Because they don’t have them. You know, this is the same… people that came over to me saying, ah yeah, uh, all you got to do is drink a raw egg in vinegar every night and you’ll lose weight.
00:22:50.45
mindarch
Um, what? Yeah. It burns weight like that.
00:22:53.50
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:22:53.63
mindarch
I’m like, really? ah you haven’t lost any weight. How long you’ve been doing this?
00:22:57.83
Alan Baltis
Right.
00:22:57.92
mindarch
You know?
00:22:58.07
Alan Baltis
Yeah. If you’re not a good example, the we, Colleen and I both did Weight Watchers at various different times and there’s very different leaders. And if your leader isn’t a success story, you shouldn’t have them that.
00:23:08.57
mindarch
Yes.
00:23:08.72
Alan Baltis
and they They shouldn’t be like, wow, you’re still struggling after five years carrying, it looks like 50 extra pounds.
00:23:15.35
mindarch
Right.
00:23:15.72
Alan Baltis
I want the person that it worked for. give me that.
00:23:18.39
mindarch
Right. I always laugh about, ah yeah, my doctor 150 pounds overweight and smokes and drinks, you know, has ah his nose as blood blisters from drinking so much.
00:23:24.69
Alan Baltis
And smokes.
00:23:29.50
mindarch
I’m like, switch doctors. What the hell are you doing?
00:23:32.06
Alan Baltis
that you don’t need to groglo some we
00:23:32.72
mindarch
yeah You go to him and he’s like, yeah, you’re in great health.
00:23:38.44
Alan Baltis
is kind of sad you know both all of our parents are gone both colleen and mine now and but at family gatherings in house fitzgerald there there was a certain amount of um discussion and i always was very polite but at one point uh her mom talked about how the pizza parlor that had the satanic baby eating in the basement and like, you know, eating fetal tissue and stuff like that. And i was just, I really like, you know, that’s not true.
00:24:09.83
Alan Baltis
You know that can’t be true. And the person that told you that, whatever email you got, whatever news thing you watched, it you know it can’t be true. So learn to distrust them.
00:24:22.38
Alan Baltis
it isn’t you know It’s not this is a truth that’s been withheld from everybody and that finally they got it out into public. Just listen to it. It sounds insane. It sounds like the kind of thing, if it was going on, it would have been revealed long ago.
00:24:35.13
Alan Baltis
They would be rounding these people up
00:24:35.47
mindarch
Right.
00:24:37.10
Alan Baltis
None of the other… reality, the facts surrounding this match that thing. And so, like, and I, you know, it’s hard to talk up when it’s your friend, your confidant who’s telling you that, but you need to be able to to do that.
00:24:49.31
mindarch
I
00:24:51.37
Alan Baltis
You just, you you know, that’s not true.
00:24:53.58
mindarch
i hear and there was a Nigerian prince spreading that rumor.
00:24:54.41
Alan Baltis
know.
00:24:57.84
Alan Baltis
All those things, you know what I mean? And it’s kind of funny. You don’t want to be, well, you’re so stupid to believe that. You you can’t be on the attack, but you have to like speak to their best self.
00:25:09.25
Alan Baltis
You know what I mean? That this isn’t a matter of just don’t be gullible. I have said this. It used to be an American virtue to be the last fool, not the first. you Missouri, the show me state.
00:25:20.03
Alan Baltis
When Missouri started to go insane about how they were doing things in schools and and all that kind of stuff, it was like, how did that virtue, I thought it was even like the state motto, how did that get canceled out?
00:25:30.01
mindarch
Right.
00:25:32.32
Alan Baltis
don’t Don’t you just like when someone says something ridiculous, kind of take a step back and go, hmm, I’m going to have to check that out for myself. And you should too, because it can’t be.
00:25:40.71
mindarch
Right.
00:25:42.12
Alan Baltis
Will Rogers, like, it wasn’t he an OK? He used to talk about and all that all the time. Oh, well.
00:25:47.62
mindarch
And then you get like, well, you can’t trust Snopes because they, they don’t tell the truth.
00:25:49.10
Alan Baltis
What?
00:25:52.48
Alan Baltis
Oh, exactly that.
00:25:52.53
mindarch
No, that’s exactly what they do. i mean, and they’re not, they’re, they’ll say,
00:25:56.30
Alan Baltis
The rigor of looking into it is what you have to do and go to the… And I’ve suggested, not only you should check into, I’ve said, you should try Snopes. You should try the Anne Fontes media thing and say, which are the media sources that are known to be factual or not and biased or not?
00:26:12.31
Alan Baltis
And if yours is like at the the apex crown crazy town, then you really, there’s nothing… They have they have studies that say… that if you If you listen watch to Fox News, you were less informed that if you listen to nothing at all.
00:26:26.67
Alan Baltis
It’s not like comparing Fox News and MSNBC. It was that Fox News damages you. It puts crazy in your head. And if all you did was turn the TV off and go read a book, you’ll be better off.
00:26:38.59
mindarch
Yeah, but then they’ll just listen to their crazy neighbor.
00:26:42.09
Alan Baltis
And it’s the crazy neighbor. and thought But even I don’t know. I have friends in Mensa that smart doesn’t make you um rational all the time.
00:26:52.17
mindarch
Right.
00:26:52.62
Alan Baltis
And so when they started, one of the things like was ah ah attacking Snopes. Or early on, remember the tea party? That was one of the first big signs of… Wow, none of that makes sense, but you’re so wanting to have some kind of rebellion, some kind of revolution that you’re going to like start not only believing that kind of stuff, but promulgating it. You’re going to tell other people and like, Mike, I, it, this is really,
00:27:17.66
Alan Baltis
um Thank God you talk to me first because I’ll like kind of talk you down and be gentle with you. But if you say those things in other crowds, people are just going to look like you are a nut bar.
00:27:28.38
Alan Baltis
And then of course, what do they learn to do? Go to where all the nut bars are and then you get echo chamber weirdness.
00:27:31.56
mindarch
Yeah. Right.
00:27:33.66
Alan Baltis
and Oh my But like ah had to, I had to stop. listening to anything they said because they had been so gullible and so foolish about so many things. It’s like, now you’re really wasting my time.
00:27:45.62
Alan Baltis
And in fact, you’re putting these things on my wall. I have friends that are saying, how are you friends with this guy? He’s, he’s awful.
00:27:53.18
mindarch
Right.
00:27:54.88
Alan Baltis
where i kind of I don’t know, it’s, it’s you know, I’ve been on social media for like 15 years now or something like that. And you but you develop habits over the course of time as to who your friends are, who vouches for you and that kind of stuff.
00:28:07.51
Alan Baltis
A lot of it is also just like, I always say, what you’ll find on my wall, it might not always be to your taste, but I’m not wasting your time. I’m not posting endless foolish videos and I’m not posting inflammatory things.
00:28:19.71
Alan Baltis
I really hardly ever post anything by itself. I will do a little, I give my analysis. And here’s why I think that way. And then if we want to have a discussion, let’s do that. But it it isn’t meant to get more listenership or viewership. It isn’t meant to piss other people off.
00:28:35.41
Alan Baltis
I’m really trying to make the world a better place. And you can quickly find out who’s not doing that. You know what mean? That they love.
00:28:41.25
mindarch
who wants to cause problems.
00:28:42.25
Alan Baltis
roles that are trying to cause a fight, the the people that after they’ve been, I’ve been in discussions where it really was a good discussion and a lot of good facts came out and they could have adjusted their opinion.
00:28:54.25
Alan Baltis
And then a week later, you see them spout the same starting statement that they did. Like, wow, you don’t read, you don’t listen, you don’t take in new. That’s so much the opposite of what any intelligent person does.
00:29:06.05
Alan Baltis
You know, it’s not, I made up my mind and then going to find the facts that corroborate it. Every time you get new information, you should be willing to shift your position if it’s information-based, you know?
00:29:13.75
mindarch
ah I had the, I had blocked and no longer talked to somebody um because of all sorts of things.
00:29:24.86
mindarch
But when I kind of mentioned that to Colin, he goes, Oh yeah, good. Cause honestly that they are probably one of the stupidest people i have ever actually met and interacted with.
00:29:34.56
Alan Baltis
boy.
00:29:35.05
mindarch
And I’m like, yeah, I know, but they were connected to somebody else. So yeah,
00:29:39.92
Alan Baltis
Right. Right. It’s another thing, you know, just that I, it was very heartening to be at no Kings and very interesting to see how people had their kind of, um,
00:29:53.03
Alan Baltis
They just quote whatever they heard from the bad news source instead of, wow, I’m seeing this not once, but 10 times, 100 times that people are really concerned and the kinds of things they’re talking about. It wasn’t just a sign saying, you know, fuck Trump.
00:30:05.18
Alan Baltis
It was, aren’t you worried about very specific things? his his The financial corruption, the the Supreme Court packing, all the one of the cool things about the signs was to be reminded of Wow, we’re like five years in to endless corruption.
00:30:22.55
Alan Baltis
And the fact that that’s moved the window for what we are accepting, it should never been. And when people talk about this, the world has become too liberal, if you will. It’s like, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
00:30:34.98
Alan Baltis
What we consider liberals here are conservatives in other countries. You’ve made the conservatives here the the really crazy end of the spectrum.
00:30:42.74
mindarch
but
00:30:43.74
Alan Baltis
but You’re trying to make that as if that’s normal. that we are you Christian nation, that we are um poor people should be killed. Like, again, you know, that’s not right. You know, like, how about if you read your own Bible and read the Beatitudes and read, what did Jesus do?
00:30:59.56
Alan Baltis
He went to the fallen. He fed the people. He, he,
00:31:03.46
mindarch
He didn’t agree with the rich people.
00:31:05.67
Alan Baltis
and Like that, you know, he turned tables over in the banks. He called the Pharisees out for being. so And this is terrible. My my witty pride speaking.
00:31:16.79
Alan Baltis
It’s especially good when someone’s really talking crazy, especially about the Bible. I know the Bible pretty well, actually. And to quote back to them, well, don’t you care about these passages as well? Because they seem to directly contradict what you’re saying.
00:31:31.43
Alan Baltis
And in fact, the one I’m quoting is supposed to be the actual words of Jesus, not five times removed, you know, it later in the Bible kind of a thing.
00:31:37.71
mindarch
I,
00:31:38.73
Alan Baltis
Not the crazy zealot prophet earlier. Like, if you’re if you’re talking about going to original source, I know that there’s a, ah fascinating to me, had a thing called like the Bible’s, um,
00:31:52.15
Alan Baltis
I want to quote it because i want people to be able to find it, where they had a whole bunch of biblical scholars go through the Bible and say, which do they think are really captured quotes from Jesus Christ?
00:32:03.62
Alan Baltis
And which are the ones that were from translation? They’re not quite right from being one or two or three times removed. It might be Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, St. Peter. Some of those things are supposed to be, well, they interacted with them. They were disciples.
00:32:15.33
Alan Baltis
But you get later on and there’s all kinds of retellings of stories, and you know how that goes. The the myth continues, the legend gets bigger.
00:32:21.80
mindarch
Right.
00:32:23.37
Alan Baltis
Well, they had like a Bible that was all the things that Jesus said were outlined in red, and if people lived like that, I’m not a religious guy, but what a wonderful place the world would be. It was about peace and acceptance and and and love.
00:32:37.56
Alan Baltis
You know, the word Jesus says love like 70 times or every time that he ever, I don’t think he ever says the word hate. it He isn’t about condemning what’s wrong with other people. And that people, that it’s become just like the Constitution, they cherry pick what they want out of it without saying, if you were trying to figure out what it all said and how it really works, you’d have to read the entire thing and take it in in its entirety.
00:32:53.66
mindarch
Thank you.
00:33:01.17
Alan Baltis
And especially when we first started to have Supreme Court justice, they were talking about being like strong constructionists, that the Constitution is, and it was straight out of the Bible camp, that it’s the literal word of the Constitution that we have to go by.
00:33:12.64
Alan Baltis
You mean the the the first part, or then when we added the amendments, or that yeah all the things that we’ve done to make the Constitution a living document and get to today, you don’t go back to when Black people were considered three-fifths of a person.
00:33:28.24
Alan Baltis
That isn’t what we are now. Society has not been that ever since we said, well, we weren’t quite right when we first started it, but we fixed it as we learned more.
00:33:29.80
mindarch
Right.
00:33:37.24
Alan Baltis
And isn’t that the whole thing? I learned more. I learned better. That’s why this can’t be true anymore. Don’t go back to when we didn’t know enough. oh
00:33:44.02
mindarch
the The problem is, both with the Bible and the Constitution, the people like shouting, you know I’m Christian and we’re a Constitution supporter, blah, blah, blah. They actually make no connection between those documents and what’s said and what they are saying and wishing.
00:34:00.49
mindarch
they They think, oh, I’m such a Christian. Oh, I follow. We got support the the Constitution and what’s You know, anyone that doesn’t agree with us, they’re wrong and wrong stuff. And then turn around and people should be shot. People should be drug out of their homes.
00:34:14.37
mindarch
ah It’s like, wait a minute, you just said, yes, I’m very Christian. and there’s It’s like, I’ve got a friend, from ah one of my best friends from school.
00:34:18.16
Alan Baltis
True.
00:34:22.94
mindarch
ah school, ah his brother married an Egyptian woman who already had some kids, Egyptian kids, like 100% Egyptian, 100% Egyptian kids. So dusky skin, got the eyes and the facial structure. I mean, they look Egyptian.
00:34:38.96
mindarch
And I asked my friend’s dad, who I knew was a big Trump supporter. I’m like, how can you be a Trump supporter? I’m Well, you know, he’s the best thing for the government. But he wants to deport your your your daughter-in-law and your grandkids.
00:34:50.06
Alan Baltis
Your children,
00:34:52.96
mindarch
You leave my grandkids out of this.
00:34:53.01
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
00:34:54.44
mindarch
They have nothing to do with them. Yes, they do. They absolutely do. ah If they’re walking down the street, ICE could grab them and get rid of them. No, they’re American, blah, blah. wait a minute, you know, you’re missing this.
00:35:05.79
mindarch
And I don’t get it. They don’t make that connection at all.
00:35:08.75
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:35:08.79
mindarch
I no longer talk to him. Literally. I saw them at the store. He saw me turn around and walk the other way because I was such an evil person for bringing up his grandkids. And I’m like that they’re the whole point.
00:35:20.49
Alan Baltis
Exactly.
00:35:20.61
mindarch
I asked my buddy, he said, Neil, his brother no longer even comes around because he can’t deal with it
00:35:20.79
Alan Baltis
right.
00:35:26.54
mindarch
and yeah do that. So this guy is so in support of Trump, but his grandkids have nothing to do with it. And he hasn’t seen his grandkids now because of his spouting it. What don’t you get?
00:35:38.80
Alan Baltis
Honestly, i always hope that that’s going to be one of the ways in which the unreachables might be reached. That they they talk all about how terrible it is to be LGBTQ, etc.
00:35:50.85
Alan Baltis
And then they find out that their granddaughter is gay. And they’re not they don’t have the devil in them. they They’re not protester. It just is. It just is that that’s the way that they they were born and their mind works and so forth.
00:36:04.17
Alan Baltis
And that you think that the love has to be able to overcome that sometimes, right? I know that that’s happened. You know what i mean? That people that were really kind of crazy, that instead they they come to, you know, my…
00:36:13.75
mindarch
Right.
00:36:15.56
Alan Baltis
my i daughter is now married to a black guy and he’s a fine person so i guess i gotta stop being crazy prejudiced because and people that join the army and the army is very mixed and you’re like if you’re going to be in the trench fighting with this guy he is your brother in arms you would die for each other we you you can’t think he’s not a man that he’s not a human being and and and and not a woman and ill so it’s i hope but i’ve also seen exactly that where people like
00:36:36.74
mindarch
right
00:36:45.70
Alan Baltis
They disown their children because they can’t get past how much they hate this thing, even if they’re supposed to love their children. like And i I never say this, but but you made them. like you You were responsible for them. Don’t you want to like take responsibility forever for this wonderful thing that you brought into the world?
00:37:05.92
Alan Baltis
I don’t know. I don’t. the The unreachables are often where i i had to come up with that term.
00:37:09.89
mindarch
unreachable.
00:37:11.21
Alan Baltis
Anybody that came to a decision without fact and logic and rationality, but only through emotion and wrong information, if they’re if they’re never going to listen to those other things, there’s no way to reach them.
00:37:24.20
mindarch
Right.
00:37:24.69
Alan Baltis
Another odd characteristic of that is to me where people, they really don’t know the difference between fact and opinion. And so they’ll argue so much i you know as to whether ketchup should go on a hot dog. And it’s like, no, that’s not a fact.
00:37:37.33
Alan Baltis
You know, that’s not reality. It might be that you’re just away from where you’re from or from what your personal taste is. But you can’t make your personal taste into this is the rule, this is the law.
00:37:47.60
mindarch
Right, right.
00:37:48.66
Alan Baltis
Having had a big discussion multiple times now about humor, you know, i find a lot of different things funny and other people get maybe a little uncomfortable if it’s dark humor, if it’s if it’s insult humor.
00:37:58.11
mindarch
Mortuary humor and stuff, yeah.
00:37:59.39
Alan Baltis
like that. And yet it’s like, you know, the fact that you don’t find it funny, you don’t speak for anybody but yourself. it It just, it’s, it might be that it doesn’t tweak whatever the thing is that other people find funny and that you don’t see the value in.
00:38:12.12
Alan Baltis
Well, it’s not humor to attack. It’s humor as a safety valve that it actually lets people get some of their um discomfort with, you know kind of whistling past the graveyard, if you will. You know what I mean? And that, and that, that, that whatever they said, that doesn’t reflect on them as a person. It means that they have a sense of humor and they can see multiple sides to not even an issue, to a thing, to anything.
00:38:33.81
Alan Baltis
And so, If ever I’ve lost friends because I told a joke I know I did in college, for instance, um I feel worse for them than for me. It wasn’t that I have a bad sense of humor and that I really told an awful joke and that people, it was more, wow, I can see how emotionally you really were struck by that. And I hope that maybe one day you’ll see that it was well motivated and you didn’t find it funny.
00:39:01.14
Alan Baltis
Oh, well, i that’s a litmus test for me.
00:39:02.13
mindarch
Right.
00:39:04.07
Alan Baltis
People that don’t have a sense of humor, they often seem to be the ones that want to tell everybody else what to do. And like, you’re exactly the one that shouldn’t be the censor.
00:39:11.44
mindarch
It’s…
00:39:11.49
Alan Baltis
That shouldn’t be the one that’s giving me taste for what TV to watch or whatever else it might be.
00:39:15.22
mindarch
the same that’s the same people when you play apples to apples with them and they get mad and upset because the the card that got chosen wasn’t an exact definition of the word given.
00:39:16.68
Alan Baltis
Okay. shit
00:39:26.76
Alan Baltis
Literal, definitional…
00:39:27.91
mindarch
I’m like, that is not what we’re doing here. If you read some of these definitions, they will never fit cards exactly. what do you
00:39:34.03
Alan Baltis
Exactly.
00:39:34.61
mindarch
you know and They get mad and they won’t play. Oh, because that’s not what that definition…
00:39:36.12
Alan Baltis
ah
00:39:37.89
mindarch
I’m like, wow, I am not letting you read any of my stuff.
00:39:41.26
Alan Baltis
but
00:39:41.49
mindarch
I had an editor once too. You were talking about that. ah The mortuary humor, the the humor under stressful situations, you know, that we commando, you know, we get Arnold making the one liners in the middle of a firefight.
00:39:49.49
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:39:55.24
mindarch
You know, we’ve had that. you know That’s a common character on many, many shows and movies and stuff.
00:40:00.90
Alan Baltis
exactly
00:40:01.07
mindarch
And I had a character similar to that. And this editor just ripped me a new one that that’s not how people react in stressful situations and stuff. I’m like, you you know what? If I did what you’re saying, i would make every time there’s a stressful situation identical. What’s the point in writing?
00:40:16.10
mindarch
Didn’t use that editor anymore. Yeah.
00:40:17.95
Alan Baltis
um that’s like Once you know that about a person, then you don’t… That’s kind of funny. I am… I’m a chameleon in terms of how I present myself to the very different public, but I don’t change internally. I just know kind of what they’re about, what they’re capable of.
00:40:32.31
Alan Baltis
And I don’t, I don’t ever want to, don’t know. I’m a nice guy. I don’t go looking for fights. I’m not a troll. But once in a while, like if you’re in a group and the joke will be funny to 70% of the group, I’ll do it. And then the people that are put out by it, it’s like, say I’m swearing.
00:40:47.99
Alan Baltis
You know what I mean? Like I, I am not a potty mouth. I don’t do that because I can’t think of anything better to say. It’s more like, You know, I got a pretty big vocabulary and the perfect word in this case is ass clown. You know what I mean? And so, and when I, when I have to explain that, like humor, a lot of times it’s, you’ve already spoiled it because the whole point of it is to be a little bit risque, a little bit ah like it it adds energy to the conversation.
00:41:13.34
Alan Baltis
But it’s funny about humor. I really, but I know that I’m kind of spoiled the humor But about swearing, I’m willing to talk about it a lot because it serves some of those same societal things as being a pressure valve or a, I think it’s like the way you learn about a society’s growth of language is from its slang.
00:41:32.08
Alan Baltis
And oftentimes slang can be vulgar or whatever. And so it’s weird to have, I know that there’s words nobody uses because they’re so terrible, but But some people add to that list so regularly, their list is hundreds of words long. It’s like, that’s just not the case.
00:41:46.41
Alan Baltis
but
00:41:46.41
mindarch
right
00:41:47.07
Alan Baltis
You know, if I’m talking about a pedophile, I can use a whole bunch of swear words. And no matter what I use, it’s not as bad as being a pedophile, is it? And so give me that license to say my my revulsion for what’s going on there is such that I have to go to the end of the spectrum that says that motherfucking evil bastard, you know?
00:41:59.88
mindarch
wolf
00:42:05.10
mindarch
The the the the the The administration is pushing all this ah context. It’s woke.
00:42:13.30
Alan Baltis
Oh,
00:42:14.23
mindarch
So now they’re that you you get – and the social medias are not wanting to get you know cut off because that’s it.
00:42:14.24
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
00:42:23.20
mindarch
Do what I say or we’re going to destroy you. Okay, we’ll do whatever. you know so you put slave anywhere and your post gets eliminated.
00:42:31.56
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:42:31.59
mindarch
yeah you know You put words that aren’t swear words, are but they say they don’t want them, and suddenly you don’t have that. Your whole post is gone, and you can’t say that.
00:42:39.42
Alan Baltis
i
00:42:42.10
mindarch
so they they are And people don’t understand how they’re changing our thinking this way. that it’s yeah No, if I’m talking about civil war, and I mentioned slave, it’s not that I should be exactly…
00:42:55.90
Alan Baltis
It was reality, exactly.
00:42:57.01
mindarch
yeah exactly
00:42:58.82
Alan Baltis
it if there’re anything
00:42:59.58
mindarch
ah You’re not allowed to say rape. If a woman was raped, you’re not allowed to say rape. It gets banned.
00:43:04.83
Alan Baltis
We just watched a documentary of some kind where they talked about how the rebels were going to make sure that after these bad guys were eliminated, that all the stuff they were doing would stop.
00:43:16.10
Alan Baltis
And instead, what it turned out to be, and this is kind of true with often with revolutions, No, they just wanted their turn at who they get to torture, at who they get to shut up and stuff like that.
00:43:26.66
Alan Baltis
And so when I have people that talk about those kinds of things, like the way and reason I know I have to be an independent, that I’m not only red or blue, liberal or conservative, is because… all the words that you think are they’re not the same words you want to make sure that though these things aren’t said over here and these things aren’t said over here but it’s language is bigger than that it’s not only ideology that drives all of that and i want to be able to use all of them in the appropriate context and i will take the time to try to explain why i thought the context was good because you’re you’re not getting that you’re not getting that you speak to your audience you speak to your emotional level
00:44:02.60
Alan Baltis
whatever was just tired and the and you know whatever else it might be it it’s unfortunate like i said that the people who want to be the censors from either the end of the spectrum they’re exactly the ones that shouldn’t be because they’ve got an agenda that says there’s nothing worse than this actually there is and the thing that’s worse than that is silence is censorship you don’t get to put your taste onto other people’s things
00:44:23.68
mindarch
Yep.
00:44:27.51
Alan Baltis
And every time I say that, I think of my mimetic stuff that I know. And it really is that there is some bad speech and how it’s done through repetition and so forth. It is propaganda that alters people’s opinions.
00:44:38.59
Alan Baltis
And so then I think, well, you can’t just have that. And then also tell other people, you have to have it be that you have enough from each side that one doesn’t swap and just become truth because of repetition.
00:44:52.07
Alan Baltis
But I have the same revulsion towards every time that someone starts using things terribly freely that I know is affecting other people, there is some part of me that says, There’s got to be way to shut that person down.
00:45:04.25
Alan Baltis
Don’t you give them the microphone. If you know that that person is the person that’s going to spout something awful every time, stop catering to that. It’s not, you know what i mean? i hope that’s the way it is.
00:45:15.15
Alan Baltis
Uh-oh, you’re frozen. Am I talking too much?
00:45:17.51
mindarch
No, no, I’m here. Can you hear me? Uh-oh.
00:45:20.83
Alan Baltis
Oh, Stephen, you’re frozen. I’m sorry. Have we lost the connection?
00:45:22.57
mindarch
i’m I get you. I’m getting you. No, it’s recording me and I’m hearing you just fine.
00:45:26.09
Alan Baltis
Oh, boy.
00:45:29.59
mindarch
Uh-oh.
00:45:31.18
Alan Baltis
i So, I think that I’m still live.
00:45:31.90
mindarch
oh Keep going. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:35.41
Alan Baltis
If you need to drop out and come back in, if you need me to drop out and come back in type something to me or let me know somehow.
00:46:03.02
Alan Baltis
Huh, so going to go out and come back in.
00:46:14.73
mindarch
Okay. You still can’t hear me. That’s so weird.
00:46:40.27
mindarch
Hello. Can you hear me now?
00:46:44.10
mindarch
allan
00:46:44.47
Alan Baltis
Okay, I’m not seeing you at all.
00:46:56.25
mindarch
All right. Is that any better?
00:46:57.77
Alan Baltis
That’s better.
00:46:58.57
mindarch
ah
00:46:58.99
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:46:59.77
mindarch
I don’t know what happened. ah It was recording both of us. I saw you moving. um Yeah, no, I heard it fine.
00:47:06.19
Alan Baltis
Yeah, like again with the marionette. Oh, your lips are moving, but I’m not hearing.
00:47:11.94
mindarch
And when I talked, I could see my little thing. It was recording. So weird.
00:47:16.99
Alan Baltis
Okay. So enough about that. What else did talk about?
00:47:19.59
mindarch
Yeah.
00:47:20.75
Alan Baltis
Any cool horror movie discoveries? I know October is a huge thing.
00:47:24.06
mindarch
Yes.
00:47:24.74
Alan Baltis
Not to like too much mix between your other cool podcast, Horror Lasagna, he said, shill, shill. But any, you guys are watching things that maybe you’re like, oh, everybody should see this. It’s so good.
00:47:34.22
mindarch
So, yes, Sunday we’re doing our annual horror fest and we’ve picked out some three really good movies.
00:47:38.43
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:47:40.40
mindarch
Last year was a fantastic horror fest.
00:47:43.16
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:47:43.23
mindarch
So we’re hoping to top it this year. We’ve got some good choices. ah We’re adding to the podcast a local cuisine. Uh, and ah when I was at the sinister horror fest, I met some actors and directors with movies.
00:47:57.09
mindarch
So I talked to all of them and we’re taking them one at a time and watching some movies and then getting that person on to talk about the movies, about acting, about directing. And it’s all local. Uh, you know, so we call it local cuisine, of course.
00:48:09.58
mindarch
Um,
00:48:09.80
Alan Baltis
Is it the hotbed for that? Is it like, are there markets or places that really seem to be, you know, like for a while, Athens, Georgia, where there’s so many bands coming out, but like, what’s in the water there? What’s going on?
00:48:19.20
mindarch
Right. Well, no, this, what we’ve found so far are all just local people. They live here, they record it, they filmed here. ah You know, they have real jobs elsewhere here.
00:48:27.43
Alan Baltis
Yes.
00:48:30.22
mindarch
um But, ah and it is, it’s weird because the movies definitely are not prime time ready for popcorn in the theater for the most part.
00:48:40.83
mindarch
You know,
00:48:41.10
Alan Baltis
Okay. Okay. Reading in the level of professionalism or the level of gore or the level of…
00:48:46.25
mindarch
it’s, it’s multiple things. It depends sometimes on the director and the actors and stuff, but it’s just, sometimes the story is not quite what it could be. Uh, the act, the, the direction is not as great.
00:48:59.00
mindarch
Some of the acting’s not good. You get a mix, you get some good acting, some bad acting. Cause it’s like, these are the people that but said they do it on Saturday, you know?
00:49:06.76
Alan Baltis
Right. And some people are really good and some people are wooden, maybe.
00:49:07.56
mindarch
um
00:49:10.60
mindarch
Yeah.
00:49:11.15
Alan Baltis
call
00:49:11.59
mindarch
You know, you get some stories where it’s like, you know what, if if you just had like one more person read it over and make a few tweaks, it could have been a thousand times better type thing, you know. ah But so but we’re we’re giving it a try. There’s a huge market, ah B market for these ah lesser known movies. I mean, it’s surprising.
00:49:31.53
mindarch
ah You go check out these movies on IMDb or Rotten Tomato and it’s like, wow, they have reviews. Not many, a couple, but you get people going, all right, I’ve seen, yeah, you know, I’ve seen seven other movies by this director and this is by far their best one.
00:49:38.92
Alan Baltis
Okay. But somebody’s seeing them. Exactly. Okay.
00:49:47.60
mindarch
They’re not saying this is the best movie ever. They’re saying the best one from that director or
00:49:51.03
Alan Baltis
I’m seeing growth in him as an artist and that kind thing.
00:49:53.07
mindarch
Yes. Yeah.
00:49:53.90
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:49:54.03
mindarch
You know, to be honest, a lot of them we’ve watched, ah you know, me and Reese were talking and I’m like, let’s not even finish watching this one because it’s just not worth the time.
00:50:04.63
mindarch
But this other one comes close to being a really good movie, you know, so it’s mixed bag.
00:50:08.95
Alan Baltis
That’s cool.
00:50:10.28
mindarch
um But.
00:50:11.12
Alan Baltis
Is there a channel? Like, is there anything on, you know, Roku or or or any other?
00:50:15.23
mindarch
A lot of them are on Tubi.
00:50:15.37
Alan Baltis
know
00:50:17.58
mindarch
Tubis are go-to for horror movies that we can’t find elsewhere.
00:50:20.73
Alan Baltis
Interesting. Yeah.
00:50:22.28
mindarch
ah so
00:50:22.85
Alan Baltis
Because Roku has a channel for seemingly everything. I’m trying to think, is there one called Chill or something like that?
00:50:27.03
mindarch
Yeah, there might be one on Roku.
00:50:27.69
Alan Baltis
That would be, poki you know, you know?
00:50:30.02
mindarch
i know there’s another new streaming service called Night Flight. It’s a revamp of an old 80s thing that all they did was like show horror.
00:50:34.64
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:50:39.28
mindarch
ah So it’s a new streaming starting out. It’s pretty cheap, so I may just subscribe to it for a while and stuff. But along with that, I’ve been playing Resident Evil again.
00:50:50.66
Alan Baltis
Oh, my.
00:50:50.67
mindarch
ah sir because Xbox has all of them on sale. So I’ve had most of them throughout time on various platforms and all of that, but now they’ve all been updated for PlayStation five and Xbox and they’re all on sale right now.
00:51:00.06
Alan Baltis
OK.
00:51:06.56
mindarch
So literally like five and six, I never got because they changed the tone and the style of play. And it was just ah an FPS run and gun. And yeah, you know, I,
00:51:16.16
Alan Baltis
Got it. If I remember right, what you said about Resident Evil was some of the sonics were the best ever, where it really was that as you move around, there’s like sounds that give you the creepy feel.
00:51:26.86
mindarch
Yeah.
00:51:27.31
Alan Baltis
Like it’s there’s something far away, but it seems to be coming closer or it’s around the corner, considering of rats or what I want mean, like is is that, is a amor wrote remembering the right one?
00:51:31.88
mindarch
Right.
00:51:36.40
Alan Baltis
Is it Resident Evil or was it a different one?
00:51:39.07
mindarch
Yeah, there is some of that Resident Evil…
00:51:40.29
Alan Baltis
Maybe Silent Hill? I’m trying to think what else has.
00:51:42.69
mindarch
Silent Hill, definitely.
00:51:42.91
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:51:44.90
mindarch
ah in that, uh, which I love, I have almost all the silent Hills now. Also I’ve collected those. I got the last one i needed on. We, it was only released on we, and I, and Colin’s like, well, I found it, but it was 250 bucks.
00:51:55.81
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:51:59.70
mindarch
I’m like, no, no, no, I’m not.
00:52:00.31
Alan Baltis
Okay. Right.
00:52:01.33
mindarch
I got it for like 85, uh, which is still way above what I would normally pay, but it’s like,
00:52:03.87
Alan Baltis
Okay. I’m
00:52:07.47
Alan Baltis
thinking in my mind, like 40, 60 is a standard, like depending on how many hours of gameplay and all that kind of stuff, but five.
00:52:13.44
mindarch
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:14.57
Alan Baltis
Okay. All right.
00:52:15.02
mindarch
So, but, but so all the resident evils are on sale right now. i picked up.
00:52:18.89
Alan Baltis
Is it humble bundle of them or is it that you need to go looking for them individually Xbox?
00:52:23.07
mindarch
Well, Xbox isn’t on humble bundle.
00:52:25.79
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:52:25.85
mindarch
I think most of them are on GOG, ah it it but it just so happens.
00:52:28.76
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:52:30.85
mindarch
I’ve got most of them on steam are on Xbox. So they were big Xbox October sale.
00:52:34.10
Alan Baltis
Okay.
00:52:36.79
mindarch
I mean like three bucks for one, five for another one. Yeah.
00:52:40.30
Alan Baltis
That’s great. I have filled in my collection of all kinds of like might and magic and whatever else by them going on sale on God or on Steam. I’m not on Xbox, but those two, I regularly have cool old things that have been revivified so that they will work on your current system or they’ll have the new one at a much better price than when it first came out.
00:52:48.39
mindarch
Right.
00:52:57.14
mindarch
Right.
00:52:57.17
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
00:52:57.73
mindarch
Yeah. You know, I’m, I’m, I, most of the star Wars games, 90% of them from years past have been released and updated. And, you know, I bought them on GOG. So I have them.
00:53:10.25
mindarch
And then they went on sale on steam and I bought them on steam. and And a lot of them are now on Xbox and they were on sale at one time.
00:53:13.68
Alan Baltis
but
00:53:17.31
mindarch
So I bought a lot of them on Xbox. so I’m like, I got to stop buying the same stupid games. It’s just what, what system do I feel like playing today?
00:53:25.15
Alan Baltis
it used to be that it was on vhs then dvd and laserdisc then disc then blu-ray all exactly again and again that’s funny
00:53:27.81
mindarch
Yes. The damn white album again.
00:53:33.87
mindarch
yeah So, yeah you know, I always, and the thing is a lot of the games I want to get again, i just wait for a sale. You know, and I know it may seem like, Oh, that’s not supporting them.
00:53:45.80
mindarch
Well, yeah, but when they’re on sale, I’ll go buy them. And these are games from 30 years ago. So why am I paying $30 for it? I’ll buy it for five.
00:53:53.79
Alan Baltis
Yeah, they’ve made all their money. They should have it out there just like I mentioned, you know, when I buy my little sets of CDs where they’re like three, $4 each, it’s because they’ve made their money off Steppenwolf, off of bread, off of all the different collections.
00:53:55.53
mindarch
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:05.15
mindarch
Right.
00:54:07.24
Alan Baltis
And when when it’s too expensive, it’s like, I don’t want to give my money to gougers. I don’t think that that’s right, that they, because there it can’t be that there’s intellectual property rights that cost so much that it’s been out for 50 years. And hopefully the guy and his family, everybody,
00:54:21.69
Alan Baltis
is comfortable because those things came out and made money already
00:54:24.15
mindarch
Yes. And you know, this is funny.
00:54:25.46
Alan Baltis
yeah
00:54:26.74
mindarch
People may say stuff like that, but again, these are the same people that will rush out at 5. A.M. The day after Thanksgiving to take advantage of black Friday sales, ah you know, how are you any different folks?
00:54:33.94
Alan Baltis
and in line right right
00:54:38.62
mindarch
But, but the thing is there’s a lot of games. Like I’ve got almost the complete like 12 or 14 games of Castlevania because they released them in bundles.
00:54:48.77
mindarch
They’ve got final fantasy, like one through nine in a bundle. They’ve got kingdom hearts.
00:54:52.71
Alan Baltis
And they’ll have the game come out and they’ll have like three extensions.
00:54:55.85
mindarch
Yeah.
00:54:55.87
Alan Baltis
All of them are good. They add new characters and spells and whatever it might be.
00:54:58.54
mindarch
Yeah.
00:54:59.31
Alan Baltis
i I have done the same. I know I’ve bought Diablo where it’s like, you know, each of the different things. And they had the Diablo war chest where it was that plus all the things. And just sometimes it’s just to have it kind of all in one place, all from the same menu.
00:55:12.07
mindarch
Yeah.
00:55:12.93
Alan Baltis
The convenience is so good compared to like we laughed about earlier. I’m going to load this off of floppy disks and play it. You know what mean?
00:55:19.08
mindarch
yeah but Like Doom. i don’t think I’ve had a game system or a computer that I haven’t had Doom on.
00:55:26.40
Alan Baltis
Here you go.
00:55:26.52
mindarch
You know, do I need to buy it again? No, I don’t. But it’s there, you know?
00:55:31.33
Alan Baltis
Right. That might… I know I have, honestly, a dozen games that I bought with the intent of playing them. But if you buy, like, all five of the Bard’s Tales, and then you’re trying to work your way through each of the ones to its completion, it takes a while, and then things happen, and you get distracted. So I know I bought all kinds of things that that were really well-reviewed, and I intended to do it, or it was a nostalgia thing, and yet they sit there as bits.
00:55:56.85
mindarch
Yeah.
00:55:56.91
Alan Baltis
And i i what I got to do is… like, I don’t know, every night, not return to what I like playing, but try a new thing out each time and see what’s the character generation system.
00:56:07.16
Alan Baltis
all What’s it like to be in the maze of it? What’s all that? And just what grabs me as compared to, well, i don’t even know what it would grab me or not, but I’ve had it for three years.
00:56:09.90
mindarch
yeah
00:56:15.45
mindarch
Right.
00:56:15.48
Alan Baltis
oh
00:56:15.99
mindarch
And you know, it’s funny you say that because i that I mentioned I went through all my books and I’ve been organizing them and stuff.
00:56:16.08
Alan Baltis
ah
00:56:21.49
Alan Baltis
Yes.
00:56:21.97
mindarch
And I’ve got a whole bunch of books that aren’t like a series or a particular author. It’s just looked good or books recommended, stuff like that. And I’m looking at a lot of these going, I’m not sure how many of these I’m going to actually read.
00:56:34.35
mindarch
So I’ve been focusing on, I grab one and I start reading it with, if I get, know, 175 pages in and could care less, I’m and i could care less ah It goes, you know, but most of them aren’t even a series.
00:56:45.80
Alan Baltis
Yeah, and the rest of the series. i
00:56:50.03
mindarch
That’s the thing.
00:56:50.76
Alan Baltis
OK, got it.
00:56:51.30
mindarch
Yeah.
00:56:51.96
Alan Baltis
OK.
00:56:52.37
mindarch
Or i or the or I don’t have the whole series. I grabbed the first one to see, you know,
00:56:56.57
Alan Baltis
Yeah, yeah. I have a couple things where I either bought the one or the trilogy, and then I got, like you said, 100 pages in. It’s like, man, this isn’t as good as the blurb on the cover was.
00:57:07.33
mindarch
right.
00:57:07.45
Alan Baltis
It’s just not, ah and I have abandoned. So I think that’s, if you’re a collector, if you’re a longtime reader, and you start to get an idea of, well, I only got like 40 years left of reading, I already have so much that I won’t get through at all.
00:57:18.68
Alan Baltis
It’s easy to say goodbye to the bad stuff, because there’s good stuff elsewhere in the shelf right in front of me.
00:57:21.75
mindarch
Yeah. Right.
00:57:23.77
Alan Baltis
You know and I mean? So, okay. Yeah.
00:57:25.31
mindarch
Yeah. I’ve been doing that a lot. ah So, you know,
00:57:28.39
Alan Baltis
have to make that a theme one time. I’ll go through and say, what are the things that I abandoned? know what I mean? honest So and ah Stephen Donaldson wrote the the Thomas Covenant books.
00:57:39.81
mindarch
that was one of the books I picked up recently to look at.
00:57:43.15
Alan Baltis
And that there is nothing that I have felt more cheated when I got to the end of it. Not just one trilogy, but two.
00:57:47.42
mindarch
And that’s why I didn’t finish it
00:57:50.87
Alan Baltis
And I was just like, he fooled me twice. And each of the books is like 400 pages. So I read 1200 and it’s like, well, this new one looks pretty good too. No, it was, it was, but I was, I plowed through it because back then I was a completist. No matter what I bought, I was going to read.
00:58:05.97
Alan Baltis
And if I could take that time back, it’s one of the ones that I actively dis-recommend to warn people away from it. because I thought it was so unsatisfying.
00:58:14.86
mindarch
I, that was one of them I grabbed. I had the first book of Tominacy, the unbeliever covenant or whatever. And I started reading it and I’m like, Oh, this is interesting. He’s got leprosy and dealing with that. And you know, and it’s like almost a hundred pages. I’m like, okay, I thought this was a fantasy book. He’s still in a small town dealing with leprosy and where, you know, and then he gets transported to the other world. and I started reading and I’m like, I really don’t care anymore. and That was the end of it.
00:58:44.19
Alan Baltis
absolutely like what was The reason that I got rooked was because he had some great ideas, the Bloodguard, and various different things. And I’m trying to think what his villain was, like Ur-Guthoth or something, you know one of those nice guttural names.
00:59:00.29
Alan Baltis
And yet it was like all those great ideas and you wasted them. You never came to the big climax, the big tell me more about the history of how that came to be.
00:59:10.92
Alan Baltis
Or if you did, it was like, wow, that took 500 pages and it shouldn’t have taken 100. You don’t need to have and all your vocabulary demonstrated on every page.
00:59:20.73
mindarch
Right.
00:59:21.02
Alan Baltis
just And in five different ways, I didn’t like those books.
00:59:24.82
mindarch
There, there is definitely a skill to having a fantasy series, a fantasy book and getting in the information on the world and everything without having the first 50 pages, just be an info dump of the history.
00:59:25.90
Alan Baltis
Oh, boy.
00:59:41.11
Alan Baltis
Exactly that. Dune was the first book that I actually had to look in a glossary because they had terms that in in the context of the book, they didn’t explain it.
00:59:46.55
mindarch
Right.
00:59:48.70
Alan Baltis
But the payoff with that was very good, at least the first three in the Dune series.
00:59:49.07
mindarch
Yeah.
00:59:52.96
Alan Baltis
And now there’s more. ah Kevin Anderson, as you as we mentioned, was just at my, you know, my pro-talk thing.
00:59:56.96
mindarch
Right.
00:59:58.03
Alan Baltis
And there’s lots to that universe that they fleshed out really nicely. And I like that series overall. And having said that, like I said, we’ll have to have a session where like, let’s go back and look at what are the things, and it might be, do I still have them on the shelf or did I actually ditch them because it hurts to have that thing? Oh, they got me for, but I don’t know. Back then it was only three bucks of paperbacks. Maybe I wasted $10.
01:00:20.59
Alan Baltis
But back then it’s, I bought that instead of something else. Oh, wow.
01:00:24.49
mindarch
right Yep. Yeah. that That’d be cool. Cause you know, I’ve got a ton of books. I’ve got a ton of books I’ve read. I’ve got a ton of books sitting on my shelf. I’ve got a ton of books that I’ve read some of the series, but not all of them.
01:00:37.32
mindarch
And that was what I started thinking. I’m like, why am I like insisting I plow through this book I’m not enjoying and wasting my time when I’ve got five right here that I know I would love, but then I feel guilty.
01:00:49.20
Alan Baltis
it’s good
01:00:50.14
mindarch
It’s like, well, I didn’t try to read those, you know?
01:00:53.79
Alan Baltis
it’s it’s kind of funny so having said there really are things we want to abandon i did a a similar thing recently where i said you know i know there’s series that books have come out and i usually like wait for it to go from hardback down to paperback and i’ll buy it for that reason work because that’s also a form factor that i like reading so i had fallen behind on the prey books by john sanford and every one of them is quite good and so i’m so happy to returning i fall behind on mark gierney’s orphan x no greg hurwitz um orphan x books and i was too behind and they were great and mark gierney has um the gray man which actually the movie with ryan reynolds not ryan reynolds uh and you know it’s the other ryan no it’s the other
01:01:27.27
mindarch
Yeah. Yeah. ah No, um Chris Evans.
01:01:35.54
Alan Baltis
um let’s see he did driver he did uh gosling thank you very much sorry ryan gosling because you’re not ryan reynolds you’re quite disparate and i don’t know why the first name like bamboozled me and did not remember you he’s so good in that movie and the movie is so good it’s by the russo brothers who as you know did the avengers and all kinds of other marvel-y things and they’ve now done a whole bunch of other things that kind of genre things it’s a thriller it’s an intercontinental whatever
01:01:37.91
mindarch
Yeah. Gosling.
01:01:43.85
mindarch
Yeah.
01:01:53.51
mindarch
Yeah.
01:02:00.52
Alan Baltis
ah They are much like um everything they make I want to see. They have proven themselves to be to be of high quality. They really love and understand the genre they’re working in. So anyway, um so just that I was happy to return to those things. And like I slogged through.
01:02:17.74
Alan Baltis
the the second in the trilogy that I was kind of reading because, well, they look good and I hope that they’re good. But then when I got out of that and went into these other things, it’s like, hope I return to that third book because I’m finding so many good things that I fell behind on.
01:02:31.02
mindarch
Right.
01:02:31.81
Alan Baltis
Also for my prog rock thing, I think I mentioned, I bought like a whole box of CDs. Everyone, you gotta listen to Tiger Moth Tales if you like progressive rock, beautiful stuff.
01:02:42.41
Alan Baltis
Peter Jones, he’s a multi-instrumentalist. He’s got a great voice, a lot of fantasy themes, a lot they’re beautiful. yeah One thing we talked about last time was I went to some beautiful things and some assaultive things, and it’s like, wow, you shouldn’t have one after the other because it kind of jars you to have to shift gears so much.
01:02:59.14
Alan Baltis
Tiger Moth Tales, what an odd name. for It’s him. it’s There’s not really a group, though. We have side players and stuff. They are just… but A couple years ago, I discovered a band called Mystery Out of Canada that as I bought more of them, it was like, oh, have I missed these guys for 20 years.
01:03:14.29
Alan Baltis
Same with this. I’ve been aware of Tiger Moth Tales from good reviews in Prague Magazine and stuff, but somehow never bought them. And it’s like, oh boy, I should have been… sponsoring this guy all along.
01:03:24.61
Alan Baltis
I should have, please make another album because I’m buying whatever you buy, whatever you make, you know, that kind of stuff.
01:03:28.60
mindarch
Yeah.
01:03:29.06
Alan Baltis
So everybody, hey, Tiger Moth Tales. yeah Let’s see. I’m trying to think if I should look at my little collection here. That’s the one that springs to mind as to also Dave Bainbridge as a guitarist and also most multi-instrumentalist.
01:03:41.66
Alan Baltis
He’s been in Iona. He’s been in Celestial Fire. He’s been in Life Signs, but it’s also his his own solo work. So good. He’s just, some people have like i love celtic music and i’m not sure why because i’m not at all irish and and yet there’s something very cool to it kind of conjures images of like misty hills in ireland and stuff like that and it’s and it’s got wonderful speed and the dynamic dynamics that it’s very gentle and then can be very speedy like a jig And I just, every time I listen to them, they’re one of those things like, um mean I gotta to like not lose track of this. I’m gonna listen to this again because I didn’t get it all. You know, there sometimes they’re so wonderfully complex that you kind of wanna drink in the songs again, the lyrics again. There’s so much cool stuff going on.
01:04:27.39
Alan Baltis
So it’s going to the prog rock thing. One of the most satisfying things is coming home with new discoveries. And then like Laude’s luckily, between Amazon and various other sites, you can find,
01:04:39.94
Alan Baltis
almost everything and and sometimes reasonable price it’s an import i’m not paying 25 bucks i’ll go 10 or 15 nowadays and what what a bargain to get so much beautiful music for only ten dollars that kind of thing so so tiger mouse tails believe me they’re really they’re beautiful they’re beautiful yeah
01:04:51.84
mindarch
Right, right.
01:04:54.92
mindarch
I’ll look them up. That’s one.
01:04:58.49
mindarch
I’ve listened to mystery, but I’ll have to look up tiger moss tails.
01:05:02.60
Alan Baltis
There’s one song called The Snail, the Horse, and the River. And it’s like, is that like a kid’s fairy tale? And it kind of is. It’s really beautiful sentiments about getting through difficulty in life.
01:05:12.86
mindarch
Well,
01:05:16.31
Alan Baltis
And… and moving forward all the time.
01:05:19.61
mindarch
it
01:05:19.63
Alan Baltis
you know what I mean? And just accepting your place, but always striving. And it just it’s a great message song without being labeled message song. So that’s a particular one that’s like, I like one of those songs where like, I got to take this down ter stairs so that Colleen can hear it because I don’t want to be the only one that has heard this.
01:05:37.90
Alan Baltis
It’s a great, great song. Yeah.
01:05:39.78
mindarch
didn’t Didn’t we get a lot of things like that with Jethro Tull too? Yeah.
01:05:43.36
Alan Baltis
Absolutely. He’s another guy. i I often call him the bard of rock and roll. so his’s music yeah yeah but it just His music was so much of an elevation from, hey, let’s go drinking and driving and get a date.
01:05:48.90
mindarch
he plays flute, so it makes sense.
01:05:57.16
Alan Baltis
There was so much more substance what he was doing and to the music of it. like
01:06:00.83
mindarch
Right.
01:06:01.29
Alan Baltis
you know Thick as a Brick is is a magnum opus. it’s It’s a fantastic rock opera of a thing. And he did that more than once with, oh man, it’s really good.
01:06:07.85
mindarch
And that there was ah e e and n Ian Anderson, right?
01:06:11.78
Alan Baltis
Aidan Anderson, yeah.
01:06:12.19
mindarch
Yeah. i Just so people know, I understand Jethro Tull was not like the lead guy.
01:06:19.31
Alan Baltis
i because we’re i To end with a lot of geekery. So we went to see Wayne’s World at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
01:06:26.51
mindarch
Okay.
01:06:26.69
Alan Baltis
We’re having a film series where it’s like rock movies. so great
01:06:29.18
mindarch
Oh, cool. the
01:06:30.58
Alan Baltis
While we were there, exactly that. We got to see the headbang into Bohemian Rhapsody.
01:06:32.49
mindarch
yeah I still do that when I hear that song, man.
01:06:36.32
Alan Baltis
get wrong It changed the culture. There’s a before and after Wayne’s world.
01:06:40.21
mindarch
Yes.
01:06:40.51
Alan Baltis
How cool is that? um While we were there, we were browsing, waiting to get in. We browse there, they have a big store and have lots of vinyl. It’s not so much CDs.
01:06:50.95
Alan Baltis
They’ve like returned to vinyl. And nowadays it’s virgin vinyl, $25, et cetera, et cetera.
01:06:55.36
mindarch
Right.
01:06:56.49
Alan Baltis
But I had the same thing of like, I’m going through, it’s all alphabetized. It’s like, here’s Jethro Tull in the T’s. No, no, the band name is Jethro Tull. It’s not a guy’s name. You don’t put it under, same with Elton John.
01:07:07.32
Alan Baltis
It’s Elton. It’s not John. It’s et cetera, et cetera. So i i had flashed back to when I first started to like organize my collection, the decisions that I made.
01:07:17.08
mindarch
Right.
01:07:17.82
Alan Baltis
Frank Zappa goes under Z because it’s a guy’s name. But you know what I mean? It’s just, there’s ah there’s a reason to…
01:07:21.79
mindarch
Right.
01:07:24.16
Alan Baltis
And maybe someone, I had to change that when all of the digitizing came out and Apple just does it by the title of the artist, if you will, the name of the artist. So all my EJs had to become E’s instead of J and vice, you know, all that kind of stuff.
01:07:40.31
Alan Baltis
It was, it’s disheartening to say all the thoughts that I put into, how should this be alphabetized? Now it’s just brute, brute force. It’s the character string.
01:07:48.47
mindarch
Well, you know, i i ah took my comic book series collections and when I put them in, i did ah number one, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and then and then i did two and
01:07:49.00
Alan Baltis
Yeah. ah
01:07:54.01
Alan Baltis
What
01:08:05.99
mindarch
yeah you know
01:08:08.31
Alan Baltis
i ah Friends, various different times have helped me with my collection, getting it all catalogued. And at one point, I really had to have a whole discussion of, well, the comic book cover might say Doctor Strange, but it’s really Strange Tales featuring Doctor Strange. They just kind of like removed it or made it so small that it’s microscopic.
01:08:28.21
Alan Baltis
But if you if it doesn’t go in order, then all of a sudden, where the rest of you At 173, the title stop? No, they just made it that now it only featured Kesar and Astonishing Tales, that kind of stuff.
01:08:37.58
mindarch
Right.
01:08:39.80
Alan Baltis
Or that sometimes you look at, I think it’s called the Indicia, right? You know, the little blurb in the bottom of the first page inside the comic book.
01:08:46.82
mindarch
Right.
01:08:48.05
Alan Baltis
And
01:08:48.28
mindarch
Which they put on the back now or in the back page.
01:08:49.80
Alan Baltis
yeah and yeah Thank you. good Because yeah I guess you you don’t want to hurt the cover any more than you have to by opening it. Oh, no. i just I had so much knowledge gained over how many tricks they played.
01:09:02.13
mindarch
Yeah.
01:09:02.16
Alan Baltis
From what I understand, it used to be that you had to pay a fee. ah to get it like relisted with a distributor if you change the title of it so some titles like the showcase titles like showcase they kept the name showcase but they always featured this has green lantern this has the challenges of the unknown whatever else it might be and if you come into that not knowing you’d have a tons of stuff misalphabetized misclassified i read this thing really if you’re person that alphabetizes you’re an uh abcadicarian
01:09:34.80
mindarch
Oh, geez.
01:09:35.03
Alan Baltis
a piece So I guess I’m going to adopt that because almost all my stuff that I care about has been very much sorted so that I can go and find what I want right away.
01:09:46.63
Alan Baltis
or if I want to loan something to a friend, it’s like, well, it’s over here under Jethro Tull, et cetera, et cetera. So.
01:09:51.30
mindarch
Right.
01:09:51.52
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
01:09:52.01
mindarch
And, you know, Marvel particularly has the legacy numbering now where they they have a new series with number one, but it’s legacy 584. Yeah.
01:10:02.31
Alan Baltis
Because that they honest when they first did that, it’s like there’s really action, I think, is the longest running run, right? Where it’s in the thousands now. And I think they started Fantastic Four over and various other things, but they kept telling you, well, it’s, like you said, really 584.
01:10:16.87
Alan Baltis
Man, whatever the bump you got from being a number one and everybody buys extra copies of the debut issue number one, you gave up such a legacy by not having it be that the numbering continued.
01:10:28.78
mindarch
And like Spider-Man particularly trying to find out all, cause I, I’ve, I’ve gotten Spider-Man for decades now.
01:10:28.82
Alan Baltis
Oh!
01:10:37.15
mindarch
I’ve got them all, but I’m just trying to find out what’s the order of the series, you know, with how they go.
01:10:37.39
Alan Baltis
Thank
01:10:44.68
mindarch
And you try and look it up online and there’s, it’s like, well, you know, amazing Spider-Man. I’ve got seven different series called amazing Spider-Man. What’s what.
01:10:52.97
Alan Baltis
Right. Or astonishing or spectacular or just Spider-Man. i but the or i they
01:10:56.65
mindarch
Yeah.
01:10:58.59
Alan Baltis
now Terry Pratchett wrote all the Discworld books. and And as you know, there’s not just one series, if you will. There’s some that are about the witches or about the guards or about… And so people that there really are wonderful fanatics, ge prime geeks, alpha geeks that have done Here’s the order in which you should read them if you really want to get kind of that ah history of Unk, more pork, instead of even the order in which they were published.
01:11:24.70
Alan Baltis
I kind of like reading things in the order published because that’s where you can see the order just grow as ah an an artist.
01:11:27.35
mindarch
Yes, we me too.
01:11:30.14
Alan Baltis
But there’s also something to be said for if I really wanted to read… I tried them, and the ones I really like are the guards books. Then I’ll read all four of the guards books, and then I’ll see what else I might want to read. So it’s cool that someone did the scholarship, did all the organizing, and said, here’s an alternate way that you could approach these this series so you’ll get perhaps a more satisfying reading experience, more rifle shots or whatever, you know? So…
01:11:52.80
mindarch
I’ve seen six, ah someone did a thing, they compiled six different ways of watching the Halloween movies with six different timelines.
01:12:03.16
Alan Baltis
Interesting. Okay.
01:12:04.06
mindarch
and
01:12:04.73
Alan Baltis
You would think Star Wars, somebody would would have said that also, like, you know, you want to watch Commander in Order, they were put out, but the second trilogy was a prequel trilogy.
01:12:13.00
mindarch
They have that, but that one’s pretty straightforward, ah you know, is what it is.
01:12:16.14
Alan Baltis
You’re right. Mandalorian is this stretch of time. and the
01:12:19.78
mindarch
Yeah.
01:12:20.57
Alan Baltis
Right, right.
01:12:20.87
mindarch
Yeah. But like that the Halloween movies rebooted like three times and and didn’t really say that, but then touched on things from the movies that supposedly didn’t exist.
01:12:21.63
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
01:12:25.89
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
01:12:31.53
mindarch
Yeah.
01:12:31.60
Alan Baltis
Sometimes they’d make reference back reference. Sometimes they’d be like Jason in space. Okay. Where is that one again? Okay.
01:12:38.80
mindarch
that’s That’s where I really lost it on that stuff. I’m like, you know, come on There’s some ridiculousness. But me and Reese just watched a slasher movie, Slumber Party Massacre, um which I was kind of laughing at.
01:12:50.84
Alan Baltis
okay
01:12:52.93
mindarch
I’m like, so one of the best things you could say about this particular slasher movie is it really makes Friday the 13th look like it has an amazing story.
01:13:02.05
Alan Baltis
That’s the Citizen Kane of horror movies.
01:13:03.76
mindarch
Yes, which honestly, it is kind of ah an interesting story compared to any other slasher movie I’ve ever seen.
01:13:04.46
Alan Baltis
but
01:13:10.95
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:13:11.14
mindarch
you know yeah ah Michael with Halloween, that stuff was retconned. They didn’t give much of the backstory until later yeah um movies.
01:13:20.25
Alan Baltis
That’s really true. The first one is just his doctor is the only sense you get of but how he, from boy to man, what happened to him, if you will.
01:13:27.91
mindarch
Right.
01:13:28.58
Alan Baltis
Okay, okay.
01:13:29.27
mindarch
Yeah. And this old thing with Laurie being his sister, that didn’t come about to like movie four or something like that.
01:13:35.46
Alan Baltis
You know what’s actually interesting in that regard? The jigsaw movies. You know, the the yeah all the saws where each one, they are aware of what has gone before and sometimes they show how the trauma of what people went through
01:13:39.60
mindarch
So…
01:13:49.29
Alan Baltis
wrecked people or changed people into maybe I don’t mean to have any spoilers but they really were very aware of what had gone before and they were really good about being twisty about it you know mean there’s any number of times I think really is it going to be the same reveal that of course it’s the cop who was investigating now he’s the guy that’s doing it no it it really is that they they’re well aware of people who really watch that kind of stuff and they lay the trail of red herring so you can really get fooled at the end you’re very good in that regard
01:14:15.85
mindarch
Yeah. but For being in torture movies, but they’re done very well.
01:14:18.03
Alan Baltis
oh
01:14:22.25
Alan Baltis
ah yeah that’s And that is the thing. That’s definitely a series that like I’ve watched them and Colleen won’t because that’s that.
01:14:27.97
mindarch
ah
01:14:28.80
Alan Baltis
It might be that it’s an interesting murder mystery, but the murders are horrific.
01:14:32.57
mindarch
It’s horrific. Yeah.
01:14:33.68
Alan Baltis
happy
01:14:33.80
mindarch
And to think what they’re doing, I mean, especially that first one, because it was new, you know?
01:14:37.39
Alan Baltis
Right? Right.
01:14:39.06
mindarch
Yeah. Yeah.
01:14:39.43
Alan Baltis
That’s true. The first one stands by itself as being a really great movie that that you don’t know what’s going on. You’re trying to piece it together. They give you a little clues, but they give you a lot of red herrings, too.
01:14:51.54
Alan Baltis
It’s a very interesting… And Cary Elwes was in it, right?
01:14:54.54
mindarch
yeah
01:14:54.84
Alan Baltis
I’m like, so… I think that he doesn’t have to be in a horror movie, but he was in this because he thought it was a good movie. And sometimes that, like, Ethan Hawke, I’m trying to think who gone into the horror, like, maybe either Insidious or Sinister.
01:15:02.81
mindarch
yeah
01:15:06.20
mindarch
oh Well.
01:15:09.01
Alan Baltis
There’s a couple of people that went in. It’s like, well, I like a movie star, not just a B-movie. And yet they saw something in this script. They said, I’d like to be in that. So, yeah.
01:15:17.84
mindarch
Right. To be fair, though, Carrie was in the second Black Christmas reboot, which was horrible. So.
01:15:24.15
Alan Baltis
but Okay. So he might be sometimes, Michael Caine has often said, you know, if you look at all the movies I’ve done, you can tell which ones I did. that though Whatever. Blame it on Rio.
01:15:35.88
Alan Baltis
What was the best thing about Blame it on Rio? It bought my mom her house. That’s why I did that movie.
01:15:41.03
mindarch
Right.
01:15:41.23
Alan Baltis
You know what I mean?
01:15:41.95
mindarch
Oh, okay. So wait, close up close to close up here.
01:15:44.99
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:15:46.10
mindarch
I’ve been watching a masterclass with RL Stein and he told a story ah that Ken Follett had told.
01:15:49.03
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:15:53.92
mindarch
was like second, but basically Ken Follett, you know, real famous author, a really popular author, I should say.
01:15:55.06
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:15:58.49
Alan Baltis
Right. Eagles, right. Okay, yeah.
01:16:01.46
mindarch
He was talking talking maybe on a panel with some literary giant author, someone that’s like admired as one of the tops of the form.
01:16:10.15
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:16:10.31
mindarch
And that author was saying, i don’t write for anybody but myself. I write what I want. I don’t look at demographics and try and make a book that works for these people and you know that people are wanting to read. i write for myself.
01:16:22.28
mindarch
Ken Paul said, well, that’s great. That’s why you’re one of the best, but that’s also why I’m rich.
01:16:27.98
Alan Baltis
Oh, my. Exactly. yeah You know, Philip Jose Farmer, whose work I really like science fiction wise, he has said a similar story.
01:16:32.83
mindarch
Yeah.
01:16:35.33
Alan Baltis
Like, you know I did my Riverworld books. They’re really a great series. And I was done at number three. And then as in Simpsons terms, they backed a dump truck of money up to my house and said, if you’ve got a fourth one in you, we would like to have that.
01:16:49.05
Alan Baltis
And he turned out, I think, two more because the money was just too much to turn away.
01:16:53.44
mindarch
yeah
01:16:53.95
Alan Baltis
And and i honestly, if that’s the thing of I can be safe for the rest of my life and work on anything that i want, kind of on spec, because though I don’t have to sell anything else. you You do things for freedom sometimes or for your family or for your health or whatever else it might be.
01:17:07.42
mindarch
yeah what
01:17:09.10
Alan Baltis
It’s always every artist makes trade-offs. You know what I mean?
01:17:11.59
mindarch
My buddy, Zach has a zombie series and he was working on the third one and it was supposed to be a trilogy.
01:17:12.71
Alan Baltis
Yeah.
01:17:16.99
Alan Baltis
Okay. Yeah.
01:17:18.88
mindarch
And suddenly the first one started taking off and, and the second one and people were, you know, working their way through the series. So that trilogy is now nine books.
01:17:29.90
Alan Baltis
I can see that. Also, i think you don’t always know. You don’t always know how much your stuff’s going to catch on if you’re going to write a character, not for that series, but like for the ages. And then you’re like, well, I actually can think of a lot of other stories I’d like to tell. i just never thought I’d have a chance to tell them.
01:17:44.99
Alan Baltis
I didn’t know that this would sell that well.
01:17:45.02
mindarch
Right.
01:17:46.51
Alan Baltis
So I kind of like that. i I really love continued fiction. There’s something about returning to people I already know and seeing them change. and but there’s still being that through thread.
01:17:57.20
Alan Baltis
I’ve read like 120 destroyer books for because Remo and Chian are really a great literary duo like those.
01:18:04.01
mindarch
Men’s Harlequin romance.
01:18:06.53
Alan Baltis
and And yet I just, I don’t know. I don’t have any shame about it. I think it’s very cool that someone, wow, you came up with 120 different ideas for a villain, a situation or whatever, the growth of them as a martial artist, as a man.
01:18:19.46
mindarch
but Now, but were all of them written by Pendleton or did other authors come in and just use that as ah an author name?
01:18:20.35
Alan Baltis
That’s pretty cool, actually, you know?
01:18:26.74
Alan Baltis
so it um ah Pendleton was the executioner, by the way. It was Richard Sapir and Warren Murphy.
01:18:29.71
mindarch
Oh, execution, right.
01:18:31.75
Alan Baltis
And I think that Sapir died and Warren Murphy continued on his own. And then they started to have some ghostwriting going on where it would say, like, the destroyer created by Warren Murphy, but then they’d attribute to a different… And so probably the last…
01:18:42.32
mindarch
James Bond books have done that.
01:18:43.97
Alan Baltis
exactly the spencer books you know what i mean just that if they they’ve had some things that have been so successful that they didn’t indeed survive their original author and a lot of times the publisher has done a great job of finding someone that was like for spencer they went to a guy named ace atkins who was writing a character that was kind of like spencer in the south and they said would you like to do the real spencer and so just that there’re there there’s some of the the continuations have been really good in terms of it’s about the character but it’s also the way that they wrote dialogue the the tense terse pacing of it and stuff like that it’s like i kind of miss you know the fact that he’s not doing it anymore um but they found someone that could do a really good version of it without just being a slavish imitation of it and that’s that’s a skill you know what i mean to be able to continue that where it really is not oh god what a sellout or anything like that
01:19:30.23
mindarch
Right.
01:19:33.18
mindarch
Right.
01:19:37.04
mindarch
what The Conan books did that.
01:19:39.54
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:19:39.65
mindarch
um ah The Reacher books have done that. It’s now the brother doing them instead of the original Lee Child.
01:19:44.28
Alan Baltis
okay Yeah, yeah. I, it’s, I, got another, that’s another, you know, here, remember the long, long time ago when we first came up with our list of what things will cover on Relentless Gickery?
01:19:46.98
mindarch
So…
01:19:55.82
Alan Baltis
We, we, we really have to like put a stake and say, we should talk about series fiction and our favorites and why they are that. mean, we already have, you know, sometimes it’s the first ones that come to mind are the ones that you really want to share.
01:20:07.60
Alan Baltis
But now that I’ve been reading for like 60 years and let’s say 50 as an adult, if you will, I was, you know, 15 years old. I was aware of what, it Some things, that they’re not even on the shelves anymore.
01:20:18.89
Alan Baltis
But if you say, man, you should seek out the, Julian May wrote the Many Colored Land ah books, the Saga of the Pleistocene Exile.
01:20:19.04
mindarch
yeah
01:20:28.28
Alan Baltis
They are fantastic. They just don’t get any love nowadays because it’s never been made into a movie and they there’s never been a continuation by another author and stuff like that.
01:20:37.29
mindarch
Do they have baseball cards? They are on baseball cards.
01:20:40.26
Alan Baltis
Lunchboxes and video games and all that good stuff.
01:20:43.40
mindarch
That’s a Lucy Van Pelt quote there.
01:20:45.20
Alan Baltis
here There we go. it You know what? Here’s the thing. If you were to go through the names of characters that I’ve created when I play my various different games, you would see what books I’ve loved the most.
01:20:57.69
Alan Baltis
Because here’s Aiken Drum. And here’s… You know what i mean? Like, that that I’m going to play Doc Savage. And and especially if it’s at party, it’s Doc Savage and his Fabulous Five. You know what I mean? And it’s like, and this guy’s going to be the thief.
01:21:08.78
Alan Baltis
And this guy’s going to be the fighter, the brawler.
01:21:09.60
mindarch
Right.
01:21:11.01
Alan Baltis
And I’m like… but i That could be a whole spur for what we I could talk about, at least me, because those things stayed in me forever. And once in a while, i Remo Williams, you know what I mean?
01:21:19.97
mindarch
right
01:21:21.97
Alan Baltis
it
01:21:23.19
mindarch
Yeah. they Why haven’t they come out with a better Remo Williams movie?
01:21:27.00
Alan Baltis
Yeah, I had higher hopes than than what it turned out to be.
01:21:27.59
mindarch
Newer, better.
01:21:31.34
mindarch
and i think they did too, actually.
01:21:31.47
Alan Baltis
But Yeah.
01:21:33.94
mindarch
Yeah.
01:21:34.24
Alan Baltis
Same with the Doc Savage movie, that it really, there’s rumors again and again about, hey, now it’s going to be by, not Steven Spielberg, you know, like somebody big that like also has an affection for that character.
01:21:45.89
Alan Baltis
And then between the financing and getting the right person to play it and stuff like that, like the guy when they first made the Reacher movie with Tom Cruise, it was not quite right because Reacher’s a big guy and Tom Cruise has a big presence, but he’s not a guy that like, he can punch right through somebody else’s guard.
01:22:02.53
mindarch
That was executives. Well, if we get Tom Cruise, he makes lots of money, so we’ll do well. And then all the Reacher people went, what the hell are you doing?
01:22:10.11
Alan Baltis
Exactly. So the guy who plays Reacher now would make a great Doc Savage.
01:22:13.53
mindarch
Yes, he would.
01:22:13.69
Alan Baltis
know, had a couple of Doc Savage discussion groups, and he’s like, he, just that, he has that physical presence, and, you know, like every time that he takes his shirt off so that the ladies can go, oh my, let’s watch this series.
01:22:25.54
mindarch
And admittedly, some guys too.
01:22:26.85
Alan Baltis
ah Like a perfect physical specimen, you know what I mean?
01:22:28.99
mindarch
Yes. ah him yeah Him and, ah who is it?
01:22:29.96
Alan Baltis
So that was what that was.
01:22:32.98
mindarch
Kevin James or somebody are are in a new action comedy coming out and it looks really good.
01:22:36.93
Alan Baltis
interesting okay very good all right i i boy i just watched a movie called play dirty ah yes like um it it just came out but it’s shane black wrote it and remember he’s the guy that early on he um he was the first guy to get paid like a million dollars for a script because he really seemed to have a golden touch and then he ran into some problems i think he wrote maybe cutthroat island with gina davis and it really tanked and so then you know how that is hollywood turned It’s got great characters.
01:22:38.38
mindarch
I think it’s on Netflix or Prime. I don’t know. One of those.
01:22:45.96
mindarch
That sounds familiar.
01:22:51.10
mindarch
Oh, okay. Okay.
01:23:07.97
Alan Baltis
got witty asides of lethal weapons. Maybe that’s where hit his total stride. was just really… boyco where you can tell uss his script it’s got great characters it’s got wity witier sides of lethal weapons except maybe that’s
01:23:17.42
mindarch
Lethal Weapon. it was he was, yeah, he was in Predator.
01:23:20.65
Alan Baltis
hit the his total stride he was in Yeah. and And so the fact that this is a new one by Shane Black, when I didn’t know anything that he was in it, then i saw him in the title, was like, I think I’m going to enjoy this more than I thought I would. And indeed I did.
01:23:36.08
Alan Baltis
It’s so get a chance. It’s really good. It’s
01:23:38.24
mindarch
um have to check it out.
01:23:39.36
Alan Baltis
It’s based on, so there’s Parker is a noir antihero. He’s really kind of, he’s got his own code and he’s kind of a good guy, but he is a thief and he has to, whatever, how he however he makes his moral compromises to do all that kind of stuff. its They’re really good and Mark Wahlberg plays that kind of like flat-faced emotionless how you had to shut yourself down in order to do what you do for a living anyway it’s really good so there there’s another we’re full of recommendations this week and you can play dirty we get we could you play dirty there we go
01:24:11.36
mindarch
There we go. and like I like Marky Mark. So, all right. All right. Got to get going.
01:24:17.32
Alan Baltis
it’s absolutely we went long i know i’m sorry there we go especially going into the holidays there’s going to be always hey what’s the christmas recommendations and that kind of stuff we might go along okay
01:24:18.77
mindarch
Yeah, that’s fine. We’re chatting good. So.
01:24:26.25
mindarch
Yeah, it’s going be a weird holiday for me. No kids at all. You know, weird.
01:24:30.14
Alan Baltis
Honestly, a quiet house, man. yeah would You know, you should come over and we’ll have dinner and stuff like that. Let me check with the lady. We got a working kitchen. We got a nice new kitchen.
01:24:39.67
mindarch
Oh, good. Good. Yeah. Play a game or something or, or go to one of the tree festivals or ah something, you know?
01:24:47.26
Alan Baltis
Exactly.
01:24:47.96
mindarch
Yeah. Cause it’s not as much fun to go by yourself a lot. Sometimes I do like that sometimes, but you know, other times it’s not worth it.
01:24:54.62
Alan Baltis
Yeah. and we’re We’re seeing, you got a whole bunch of comedy shows lined up. I’ll send you a list. We have another friend that’s also solo. And it’s like, we shouldn’t be alone. And so if you see any of these things, you might when ah it’s a bigger drive for you than for us to come into the city.
01:25:05.08
mindarch
no but well
01:25:07.27
Alan Baltis
but like Oh, if you haven’t seen Randy Feltface, come and join us for Randy Feltface.
01:25:11.83
mindarch
ah
01:25:11.86
Alan Baltis
It’s like nothing you’ve ever seen before. He’s so good.
01:25:13.29
mindarch
keep in mind, i invited you guys to come and see first snow and that sucked.
01:25:14.27
Alan Baltis
I can’t.
01:25:18.35
Alan Baltis
yeah
01:25:18.52
mindarch
and And we all agreed though.
01:25:19.91
Alan Baltis
like
01:25:19.96
mindarch
We talked at intermission. It’s like, is it just me or is this really not clicking?
01:25:21.34
Alan Baltis
ah I wanted it again. I wanted it to be better than it was.
01:25:26.47
mindarch
yeah But that that’s the thing when me and Gina went the year before it was fantastic. It was like two different groups were doing it.
01:25:34.37
Alan Baltis
that and just wanted they played and one of they phoned it in
01:25:34.43
mindarch
And I looked and it wasn’t two different groups, you know?
01:25:40.02
mindarch
Yeah.
01:25:40.05
Alan Baltis
Something like that.
01:25:40.67
mindarch
Yeah. It was a big difference.
01:25:41.19
Alan Baltis
that one
01:25:42.19
mindarch
So, ah but the funny thing is after that year, they haven’t been back to the Lorraine palace theater.
01:25:42.44
Alan Baltis
Yeah. Oh, well.
01:25:48.97
mindarch
They’ve been playing. They were at, uh, I think streetsboro, uh, high school, uh, uh, last year.
01:25:55.20
Alan Baltis
Oh my.
01:25:56.34
mindarch
Yeah. You know, they, they, so we weren’t the only ones that noticed.
01:25:56.72
Alan Baltis
Okay.
01:25:59.62
Alan Baltis
Right. Depending on reviews, depending on ticket sales, they can be on the rise or on the…
01:26:04.51
mindarch
Yeah.
01:26:04.98
Alan Baltis
Yeah. Okay.
01:26:06.23
mindarch
Yeah. So, all right, man, later.
01:26:06.48
Alan Baltis
All right. Take care, Stephen. Bye-bye.
